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Step into a rare conversation between two innovation giants—Pixar’s Ed Catmull and SpaceX’s Elon Musk. One built a haven for storytellers; the other, a launchpad to Mars. From Braintrust meetings to rocket explosions, this dialogue unpacks the cultures, conflicts, and convictions behind lasting innovation. A must-read for dreamers and disruptors alike.
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Ed Catmull:** Hey there, welcome to the show. I’m *playing* Ed Catmull—yes, the Pixar co-founder from *Creativity, Inc.*
Elon Musk:** And I’m *playing* Elon Musk—the guy with rockets, EVs, and an allergy to limits. In this podcast, we don’t
Ed Catmull:** So Elon, I've been thinking about this conversation for days. There's something fascinating about comparin
Elon Musk:** Animation and rockets. Not the most obvious pairing.
Ed Catmull:** Yet both require teams to do what seems impossible on ridiculous deadlines. I remember when we were making
Elon Musk:** Story of my life.
Ed Catmull:** I bet! You know, reading about your childhood in South Africa, I was struck by how you retreated into book
Elon Musk:** I basically lived in my own head. Still do, honestly. People think it's some strategic choice to pursue ele
Ed Catmull:** That's what we call "productive obsession" at Pixar. We actually try to build systems that protect those o
Elon Musk:** Wait, you PROTECT the crazy ideas? At Tesla, people just assume I'm the source of all the insanity, so they
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"Feels effortless compared to reading. I’ve finished 6 books this month already."
"BeFreed turned my guilty doomscrolling into something that feels productive and inspiring."
"BeFreed turned my commute into learning time. 20-min podcasts are perfect for finishing books I never had time for."
"BeFreed replaced my podcast queue. Imagine Spotify for books — that’s it. 🙌"
"It is great for me to learn something from the book without reading it."
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"Instead of endless scrolling, I just hit play on BeFreed. It saves me so much time."
"I never knew where to start with nonfiction—BeFreed’s book lists turned into podcasts gave me a clear path."
"Perfect balance between learning and entertainment. Finished ‘Thinking, Fast and Slow’ on my commute this week."
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"The themed book list podcasts help me connect ideas across authors—like a guided audio journey."
"Makes me feel smarter every time before going to work"
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